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Hundreds of thousands of eager gamers have been following the progress of WAR as it moved through development, into beta, and finally release in September 2008. Given the strongly established brand and loyal following of the Warhammer fantasy universe, expectations have been high, and the folks at Mythic have attempted to give us an indication of how things are rolling along so far with the actual subscribers. These two press releases contain the only official numbers released to date:
* September 26th, 2008 - 500,000 subscribers
* October 10th, 2008 - 750,000 subscribers
As the weeks continue to pass, keep an eye on Mythic's press department, as you can be sure they will want to make another announcement if they can reach a nice round figure like 1 million subscribers.
Has It Already Peaked?
Some may argue that WAR, like Funcom's Age of Conan before it, may have already peaked with launch hype and is only headed downhill as time goes on.  If the game does indeed have fatal flaws which prevent it from really "catching on," this may be true, but we'll need a few more data points before we can draw any conclusions on that front. For the sake of comparison, here are the numbers we saw reported by Funcom on Age of Conan, lined up with the equivalent reports about WAR:
You can see from the graph that Age of Conan jumped off to a strong start, but ultimately was unable to sustain growth as the cancellations mounted.  If the folks at WAR can continue on any kind of uptrend into the second and third months after launch, it will indicate a much better ability to manage the expectations associated with the game.
Blizzard Won't Make It Easy
The impending release of Wrath of the Lich King will make the competitive landscape significantly tougher as we enter November, but WAR should be able to at least "hold steady" if they have a solid loyal userbase rather than the fleeting band of novelty-seekers we saw populating the early weeks on Age of Conan.
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Ghork Oct 27, 2008 at 6:49 pm
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before WAR I thought i'd buy war and WOTLK, but tbh now i wont even buy wotlk wow is the same game, i've played many mmos i love them over any other genre as i'm an addicted son of a *****, however i've tried it all in wow, in so many ways its a pure grindfest, war doesn't have repair cost doesn't need new honor grinding every season etc. so after WAR i've just realised how i can never go back to WoW again, now that doesn't mean i wont try something new with darkfall or so, but wotlk nope. so wow -3(got 3 accounts) war +1Â
Hexd Oct 25, 2008 at 9:04 pm
+1 votes
Most of the AoC remaining player base will stay since they are not WoW players.
WAR is nearing its peak, I estimate when the new classes comes out that it will be the peak then it will go steady for a couple of months. Then past that is when it gets interesting.
Currently I would say WAR is doing the best in the industry as far as listening and responding to player feedback as fast as possible.
WAR is nearing its peak, I estimate when the new classes comes out that it will be the peak then it will go steady for a couple of months. Then past that is when it gets interesting.
Currently I would say WAR is doing the best in the industry as far as listening and responding to player feedback as fast as possible.
briyan Oct 25, 2008 at 9:39 pm
+1 votes
Currently I would say WAR is doing the best in the industry as far as listening and responding to player feedback as fast as possible.
The developers do appear to be responding in a more encouraging manner than the AoC devs, without a doubt.Â
The developers do appear to be responding in a more encouraging manner than the AoC devs, without a doubt.Â
Squarepusher Oct 26, 2008 at 2:23 pm
+1 votes
It's still kind of annoying seeing what's happening in the patches...
I mean, at first WoW only listened to the whine aswell- but blizzard have really started looking at facts since S1 and that results in changes that really need to happen and really should happen instead of the **** that people are whining about.
And it's hard to adjust backwards to the "whine moves everything around me" patching, because when it comes down to it; people don't know what they want. It's that simple, and mythic arent even enterpreting feedback well at all... for example:
People whined about capital cities being taken too fast; so they made changes... changes that DIDNT scale with the factors that made taking capital cities easy on certain servers, leaving a good majority of servers and factions in the gutter creating even more problems.
I mean, at first WoW only listened to the whine aswell- but blizzard have really started looking at facts since S1 and that results in changes that really need to happen and really should happen instead of the **** that people are whining about.
And it's hard to adjust backwards to the "whine moves everything around me" patching, because when it comes down to it; people don't know what they want. It's that simple, and mythic arent even enterpreting feedback well at all... for example:
People whined about capital cities being taken too fast; so they made changes... changes that DIDNT scale with the factors that made taking capital cities easy on certain servers, leaving a good majority of servers and factions in the gutter creating even more problems.
CrispyDeath Oct 26, 2008 at 4:33 pm
+1 votes
Since you're beginning Blizzard's history at TBC, I will assume you don't know what the **** you're talking about.
Warhammer is addressing issues diligently. Blizzard prioritizes changes too, or at least they used to. Now Blizzard tends to lump changes together in bigger patches. . . except they create more problems then they conclusively fix.
Warhammer is addressing issues diligently. Blizzard prioritizes changes too, or at least they used to. Now Blizzard tends to lump changes together in bigger patches. . . except they create more problems then they conclusively fix.
Squarepusher Oct 28, 2008 at 4:13 pm
+1 votes
Not sure if you hit the wrong button or if gameriot's just ******* with me but
if you were replying to me then I suggest you read my comment first; because nothing you've said is even remotely close to arguments against anything I've said.
if you were replying to me then I suggest you read my comment first; because nothing you've said is even remotely close to arguments against anything I've said.
CrispyDeath Oct 29, 2008 at 11:44 am
+1 votes
I suggest you read what I said first; since I did indeed respond to the general thing you were saying.
Or I suggest you just learn how to read because I don't care enough to rehash it for you.
Or I suggest you just learn how to read because I don't care enough to rehash it for you.
Squarepusher Oct 30, 2008 at 2:38 pm
+1 votes
Are you a retard?
Do I really have to explain to you something that a 5 year old would be able to comprehend?
Read on, idiot;
"Since you're beginning Blizzard's history at TBC, I will assume you don't know what the **** you're talking about."
I didnt begin blizzards history at tbc, so your argument is void. Even if I did (and again, I did not), what relevance would it have you ******* retard? If you would have read my comment without being a retard you would have been able to draw the conclusion that it's the complete opposid, considering the argument I made was that it was "..hard to adjust backwards to the.."- the very core of your argument is completely senseless no matter how you look at it as a response to my comment.
"Warhammer is addressing issues diligently."
Quote me where I've said anything about this you ******* retard.
"Blizzard prioritizes changes too, or at least they used to. Now Blizzard tends to lump changes together in bigger patches. . . except they create more problems then they conclusively fix."
Quote me where I've said anything about this you ******* retard. Anything I said about mythic regarding this was that they didnt interpret feedback that well leading the manifestation of feedback in development to produce ugly results, I havent said anything about blizzard on this matter at all and I really don't care about it since it's not relevant to my point being that this shortfall from mythic doesnt make things easier (things being my original point that it's hard to adjust back to the old outdated mentalities of patch content), retard.
So no you didnt respond to any "general thing" I was talking about, you didnt address a single point even remotely.
Do I really have to explain to you something that a 5 year old would be able to comprehend?
Read on, idiot;
"Since you're beginning Blizzard's history at TBC, I will assume you don't know what the **** you're talking about."
I didnt begin blizzards history at tbc, so your argument is void. Even if I did (and again, I did not), what relevance would it have you ******* retard? If you would have read my comment without being a retard you would have been able to draw the conclusion that it's the complete opposid, considering the argument I made was that it was "..hard to adjust backwards to the.."- the very core of your argument is completely senseless no matter how you look at it as a response to my comment.
"Warhammer is addressing issues diligently."
Quote me where I've said anything about this you ******* retard.
"Blizzard prioritizes changes too, or at least they used to. Now Blizzard tends to lump changes together in bigger patches. . . except they create more problems then they conclusively fix."
Quote me where I've said anything about this you ******* retard. Anything I said about mythic regarding this was that they didnt interpret feedback that well leading the manifestation of feedback in development to produce ugly results, I havent said anything about blizzard on this matter at all and I really don't care about it since it's not relevant to my point being that this shortfall from mythic doesnt make things easier (things being my original point that it's hard to adjust back to the old outdated mentalities of patch content), retard.
So no you didnt respond to any "general thing" I was talking about, you didnt address a single point even remotely.
Squarepusher Nov 1, 2008 at 2:31 pm
+1 votes
If you think "if you were replying to me then I suggest you read my comment first; because nothing you've said is even remotely close to arguments against anything I've said." is too long to read then I'm sorry to break it to you but you might be dyslexic.
Don't mistake shutting some random retard down for rage- I shut down retards for entertainment, it's a fairly interresting hobby.
Maybe Bob Ross can help me explain this to you...
Don't mistake shutting some random retard down for rage- I shut down retards for entertainment, it's a fairly interresting hobby.
Maybe Bob Ross can help me explain this to you...
CrispyDeath Nov 3, 2008 at 12:10 am
+1 votes
It's too much to ask for
We, geniuses, just can't turn our brains off.
"or wait that might be too much to ask for"
How about paying for some grammar lessons?
We, geniuses, just can't turn our brains off.
"or wait that might be too much to ask for"
How about paying for some grammar lessons?
Squarepusher Nov 3, 2008 at 1:19 am
+1 votes
Let's see if I can get this right... you call yourself a genius, while saying that what I'm asking is too much to ask for because you come to the, oh so genius, conclusion that the only way you could be less dumb is to turn your brain off.
It's really mind-boggling how someone like yourself with such overwhelming lack of reasoning and logic could even manage something as simple as to manoeuvre this website. Do you even realize the extent of how much you've just insulted yourself?
And the grammar comment? Really? You're that desperate, grasping for straws? I mean... sure I've heard desperation being common as the last act of a dying man but... I'm really sorry if you're in such a bad shape over being shut down by me over the internet.
Perhaps the nerd-rage I'm causing you are aggravating your heart condition, maybe you should go outside sometimes and start eating healthy, and maybe see a doctor.
It's really mind-boggling how someone like yourself with such overwhelming lack of reasoning and logic could even manage something as simple as to manoeuvre this website. Do you even realize the extent of how much you've just insulted yourself?
And the grammar comment? Really? You're that desperate, grasping for straws? I mean... sure I've heard desperation being common as the last act of a dying man but... I'm really sorry if you're in such a bad shape over being shut down by me over the internet.
Perhaps the nerd-rage I'm causing you are aggravating your heart condition, maybe you should go outside sometimes and start eating healthy, and maybe see a doctor.
Squarepusher Nov 3, 2008 at 1:21 am
+1 votes
And tell me if you're having problems with your dyslexia on this one and I can try to highlight the important parts for you, or maybe draw you a picture.
CrispyDeath Nov 3, 2008 at 11:17 am
+1 votes
tl;dr
why are you taking this conversation so serious?
I honestly don't know and don't care why this "argument" even started.
why are you taking this conversation so serious?
I honestly don't know and don't care why this "argument" even started.
Squarepusher Nov 3, 2008 at 2:56 pm
+1 votes
Dyslexia AND a completely malfunctioning memory?
As I did offer to highlight the important parts in my previous comment, now I really cant be arsed considering I'll have to do it in this one aswell;
For your dyslexia, just read the BOLD parts.
I'll refresh your memory; I commented and said that it was hard to ho back to mythics way of "whine moves everything around me" way of patching after being used to blizzard actually starting to think for themselves and make changes that people whine about but in the end is changes that need to happen.
It'll take a while before mythic learn the reality of the endgame to be able to make real changes themselves, and until then we'll only see patches containing useless content (* The skull on the shoulderpad "Dreaded Mantle" was making a happy face, it is now changed to sad.) and content/balance issues/whatever that is completely based on feedback (aka whine)
And I also noted that it doesnt make things any better that mythic takes whine and turns it into **** for content a lot of the time (like they did messing up the RVR so you can't cap zones)
And then you went and replied to me and said some **** that had nothing to do with any of this (accusing me of starting blizzards history at TBC (which I didnt do, which isnt even relevant), noting that mythic addresses issues dilligently (which again I've never said anything about), and then you tell me that blizzard lumps together changes (which is completely irrelevant) which causes more problems than they create (arguably true or false, but still completely irrelevant).
As I did offer to highlight the important parts in my previous comment, now I really cant be arsed considering I'll have to do it in this one aswell;
For your dyslexia, just read the BOLD parts.
I'll refresh your memory; I commented and said that it was hard to ho back to mythics way of "whine moves everything around me" way of patching after being used to blizzard actually starting to think for themselves and make changes that people whine about but in the end is changes that need to happen.
It'll take a while before mythic learn the reality of the endgame to be able to make real changes themselves, and until then we'll only see patches containing useless content (* The skull on the shoulderpad "Dreaded Mantle" was making a happy face, it is now changed to sad.) and content/balance issues/whatever that is completely based on feedback (aka whine)
And I also noted that it doesnt make things any better that mythic takes whine and turns it into **** for content a lot of the time (like they did messing up the RVR so you can't cap zones)
And then you went and replied to me and said some **** that had nothing to do with any of this (accusing me of starting blizzards history at TBC (which I didnt do, which isnt even relevant), noting that mythic addresses issues dilligently (which again I've never said anything about), and then you tell me that blizzard lumps together changes (which is completely irrelevant) which causes more problems than they create (arguably true or false, but still completely irrelevant).
Squarepusher Nov 3, 2008 at 3:03 pm
+1 votes
And don't take this the wrong way, I'm not in any way in any sort of serious mood- what I say happens to be truth but that's just because I happen to know things- the real joy I get out of this is talking to retards
it's a hobby of mine that I've developed over my years on the internet, it's always so very interresting to find out what you retards will come up with next, and how you will react in different situations... it's like discovery channel except I'm the guy poking the crocodile (or, retard in this case) in its ass with a stick.
it's a hobby of mine that I've developed over my years on the internet, it's always so very interresting to find out what you retards will come up with next, and how you will react in different situations... it's like discovery channel except I'm the guy poking the crocodile (or, retard in this case) in its ass with a stick.
CrispyDeath Nov 3, 2008 at 6:15 pm
+1 votes
tldr again...
lol
do u always try so hard?
i read ur 2nd post there... ur ******* dumb if u think u speak the truth... lol
wat r u in highschool? big shot eh!
im in lawschool u dum**** and top 5 of my class-- rofl u think u no but u got no ******* clue.
u say ur having a convo w/ a retard and this is the first time i'vew actually even read and responded 2 1 of ur posts.
go nerdrage and suicide 4 thinking u no some1 over the internet.
and no, ur not worth the time to even type/talk to poroperly... lol
lol
do u always try so hard?
i read ur 2nd post there... ur ******* dumb if u think u speak the truth... lol
wat r u in highschool? big shot eh!
im in lawschool u dum**** and top 5 of my class-- rofl u think u no but u got no ******* clue.
u say ur having a convo w/ a retard and this is the first time i'vew actually even read and responded 2 1 of ur posts.
go nerdrage and suicide 4 thinking u no some1 over the internet.
and no, ur not worth the time to even type/talk to poroperly... lol
Squarepusher Nov 3, 2008 at 6:36 pm
+1 votes
You're just so stupid that it's impossible to describe the stupidity of every word coming out of your account- that anything I'll write will be too long for a retarded dyslexic like yourself to read.
And I don't need to try, all of this comes naturally to me unlike you who apparently can't write a single sentence without ******* it up with nonsensical bull****.
See now, if I say something you're saying isnt true, I quote you and directly argue against it- you however can't seem to be able to do the same... I wonder why~
Your country is just like one large TV show where they just take the most retarded lowlife idiots and put them all in prestigeous positions such as high level law schools just to see what happens for the sake of entertainment- so I wouldnt be supprised if you're actually not bull****ting about law school.
And I don't need to try, all of this comes naturally to me unlike you who apparently can't write a single sentence without ******* it up with nonsensical bull****.
See now, if I say something you're saying isnt true, I quote you and directly argue against it- you however can't seem to be able to do the same... I wonder why~
Your country is just like one large TV show where they just take the most retarded lowlife idiots and put them all in prestigeous positions such as high level law schools just to see what happens for the sake of entertainment- so I wouldnt be supprised if you're actually not bull****ting about law school.
CrispyDeath Nov 3, 2008 at 8:03 pm
+1 votes
You realize dyslexia has nothing to do with intelligence right? I don't need to look it up.
And as a matter of fact, most people are partially dyslexic or have moments of dyslexia.
Did your dyslexia make you think I said I was in a high level law school, when I said I was top of my class? You need to get your brain checked bro. Your dyslexia is ******* your **** up.
You're really emotionally invested in this argument. Maybe, just maybe, I don't give a **** about whatever started this argument. And maybe, just maybe, I said that like 10 posts ago. And maybe, just maybe, you'll understand that this time around.
And by the way, words don't come out of my account. What a bad use of words. Learn 2 english. GTFO
And as a matter of fact, most people are partially dyslexic or have moments of dyslexia.
Did your dyslexia make you think I said I was in a high level law school, when I said I was top of my class? You need to get your brain checked bro. Your dyslexia is ******* your **** up.
You're really emotionally invested in this argument. Maybe, just maybe, I don't give a **** about whatever started this argument. And maybe, just maybe, I said that like 10 posts ago. And maybe, just maybe, you'll understand that this time around.
And by the way, words don't come out of my account. What a bad use of words. Learn 2 english. GTFO
Squarepusher Nov 3, 2008 at 10:54 pm
+1 votes
I'm not talking about your intelligence when I bring up dyslexia
I would however be bashing your intelligence for coming to that completely idiotic conclusion.
If you can't figure out in what way I'm making fun of you by using the disorder Dyslexia, then you're just going to have to deal with the fact that you'll most likely never be able to understand my explanation either way.
I've never said you're in high level law school, retard.
And I used the term account because the **** you're posting is just getting so increadibly more and more stupid for every post that I'd be amazed if a single person can deteriorate by such quantum leaps that it's more likely that each post being made is in fact the result of a teacher leaving his computer logged in at a special ed class for mentally challenged 8th graders.
I would however be bashing your intelligence for coming to that completely idiotic conclusion.
If you can't figure out in what way I'm making fun of you by using the disorder Dyslexia, then you're just going to have to deal with the fact that you'll most likely never be able to understand my explanation either way.
I've never said you're in high level law school, retard.
And I used the term account because the **** you're posting is just getting so increadibly more and more stupid for every post that I'd be amazed if a single person can deteriorate by such quantum leaps that it's more likely that each post being made is in fact the result of a teacher leaving his computer logged in at a special ed class for mentally challenged 8th graders.
CrispyDeath Nov 4, 2008 at 10:21 am
+1 votes
u can deny everything but it just shows your level of maturity or lack thereof.
Squarepusher Nov 4, 2008 at 10:24 pm
+1 votes
"Your country is just like one large TV show where they just take the most retarded lowlife idiots and put them all in prestigeous positions such as high level law schools just to see what happens for the sake of entertainment- so I wouldnt be supprised if you're actually not bull****ting about law school."
This is not me saying you're in high level law school, fact.
This is not me saying you're in high level law school, fact.
Squarepusher Nov 4, 2008 at 10:31 pm
+1 votes
Dyslexia is a disorder that primarily has to do with having difficulties with written language, this includes reading.
Scroll up and look at how many times you've stated that what I've written is too long for you to read, even when I've added reading aid such as highlighting the important parts that only ammount to 2 sentences making up for such a low amount of words that a 6 year old wouldnt even have problems with.
Scroll up and look at how many times you've stated that what I've written is too long for you to read, even when I've added reading aid such as highlighting the important parts that only ammount to 2 sentences making up for such a low amount of words that a 6 year old wouldnt even have problems with.
Squarepusher Nov 4, 2008 at 10:33 pm
+1 votes
These two things alone (together with the fact that I have to EXPLAIN them to you) justifies me calling you a retarded ******* idiot.
CrispyDeath Nov 5, 2008 at 9:49 am
+1 votes
Dyslexia is a disorder that causes letters to not appear in correct order or shape you dumb ****. Written language includes reading? Wow way to blow everyone's minds.
You're truly a sad story. You think you're explaining things to someone over the internet!!! lawl.
Stop bein a ******. ty
You're truly a sad story. You think you're explaining things to someone over the internet!!! lawl.
Stop bein a ******. ty
Squarepusher Nov 5, 2008 at 9:52 pm
+1 votes
Dyslexia is a disorder that primarily has to do with having difficulties with written languages you dumb ****.
And you're bashing me for feeling the need to further add that it includes reading? Take a look at this thread, I've had to explain more obvious things than this to you- talking to you is like talking to a small retarded child.
I am explaining things, not because I want to but because apparently I have to- since you're too ******* dumb to figure these things out for yourself.
Stop being a ******* retard you dumb ****.
And you're bashing me for feeling the need to further add that it includes reading? Take a look at this thread, I've had to explain more obvious things than this to you- talking to you is like talking to a small retarded child.
I am explaining things, not because I want to but because apparently I have to- since you're too ******* dumb to figure these things out for yourself.
Stop being a ******* retard you dumb ****.
CrispyDeath Nov 6, 2008 at 9:58 am
+1 votes
duh it has to do with reading, but more specifically it has to do with the processing of letters and words.
You haven't had to explain **** to me u dum****. I didn't even READ your **** so how could I not understand it? Tell me that genius.
Not trying != not understanding.
Your failure to understand THIS, makes you the dyslexic fggt
You haven't had to explain **** to me u dum****. I didn't even READ your **** so how could I not understand it? Tell me that genius.
Not trying != not understanding.
Your failure to understand THIS, makes you the dyslexic fggt
Squarepusher Nov 6, 2008 at 10:26 am
+1 votes
I wasnt implying that you werent understanding it you retarded ******* idiot, this is the part where I need a ******* education in child psychology in order to be able to get through to your thick ******* head.
How can you even make that conclusion?
It's ******* beyond me, it feels like it won't matter what I type- I pretty much litteraly need an education in child psychology in order to know which parts of your retarded mind to poke in order to slip meaningful information past that wall of dumb separating your brain from reality.
I'll get back to you once I've aquired the required means to reach out to special people like yourself.
How can you even make that conclusion?
It's ******* beyond me, it feels like it won't matter what I type- I pretty much litteraly need an education in child psychology in order to know which parts of your retarded mind to poke in order to slip meaningful information past that wall of dumb separating your brain from reality.
I'll get back to you once I've aquired the required means to reach out to special people like yourself.
CrispyDeath Nov 6, 2008 at 11:27 am
+1 votes
Please suicide.
If you are trying to explain something, a reasonable prudent person would believe that you are inferring that the other person does not understand.
If you're explaining something, you obviously don't believe the other person understood prior to your explanation. Otherwise you are just exercising futility, which you probably are, which just supports my opinion that you just like arguing.Â
Which is made worse because you're basically arguing with yourself. I haven't argued any merit of anything you believe we're talking about, whatever actually started this "argument" (which in reality is just bickering). Since you're not arguing with me you're arguing with yourself, excepting your confusion that my decision not to read your boring/pointless/baseless/ignorant posts is due to dyslexia and not because I don't give a ****.
My suggestion to you is to not take these arguments so seriously. You're obviously emotionally invested in the outcome of this argument. I'll be honest with you -- I never cared about this thread at all even from the very beginning. I don't know if I even meant to respond to you or not -- that is the funny part. You've gotten so emo about it though, so I'll just end it here.
I just do not care.
If you are trying to explain something, a reasonable prudent person would believe that you are inferring that the other person does not understand.
If you're explaining something, you obviously don't believe the other person understood prior to your explanation. Otherwise you are just exercising futility, which you probably are, which just supports my opinion that you just like arguing.Â
Which is made worse because you're basically arguing with yourself. I haven't argued any merit of anything you believe we're talking about, whatever actually started this "argument" (which in reality is just bickering). Since you're not arguing with me you're arguing with yourself, excepting your confusion that my decision not to read your boring/pointless/baseless/ignorant posts is due to dyslexia and not because I don't give a ****.
My suggestion to you is to not take these arguments so seriously. You're obviously emotionally invested in the outcome of this argument. I'll be honest with you -- I never cared about this thread at all even from the very beginning. I don't know if I even meant to respond to you or not -- that is the funny part. You've gotten so emo about it though, so I'll just end it here.
I just do not care.
Squarepusher Nov 6, 2008 at 11:12 pm
+1 votes
I'll adress your paragraphs in order;
1. Correct
2. Correct again, captain obvious!
3. Yes you have, you've argued that you think I've made points in my insults that I simply havent made, and holy **** you just finally understood the point of my insult regarding dyslexia; took you a while you dumb ****-
And oh, baseless? I can quote you when I make an argument; and as I've said before- you can't. Why? Because you're the only one making baseless arguments.
Sadly if I do quote you the post becomes too long for you and your disability to handle.
3. If you say you care or not doesnt matter, it's obvious that you've lost your cool considering you've made so many retarded posts and statements that must have been a result of being blinded by rage.
1. Correct
2. Correct again, captain obvious!
3. Yes you have, you've argued that you think I've made points in my insults that I simply havent made, and holy **** you just finally understood the point of my insult regarding dyslexia; took you a while you dumb ****-
And oh, baseless? I can quote you when I make an argument; and as I've said before- you can't. Why? Because you're the only one making baseless arguments.
Sadly if I do quote you the post becomes too long for you and your disability to handle.
3. If you say you care or not doesnt matter, it's obvious that you've lost your cool considering you've made so many retarded posts and statements that must have been a result of being blinded by rage.
CrispyDeath Nov 7, 2008 at 9:33 am
+1 votes
Lost my cool? That is funny.
Here is a gift for you, emo boy
Here is a gift for you, emo boy
Squarepusher Nov 7, 2008 at 11:15 am
+1 votes
Thanks I'll give them to your mom after tonight to clean herself up.
Here's a tip for you, my nerd-raging friend
Here's a tip for you, my nerd-raging friend
Squarepusher Nov 7, 2008 at 11:46 pm
+1 votes
Hey no need to be rude and flipp me off!
Nice sweater you've got there, is that Lacoste? Good for you.
Nice sweater you've got there, is that Lacoste? Good for you.
CrispyDeath Nov 8, 2008 at 10:53 am
+1 votes
actually yes it is...
you know your brands. Good for you.
you know your brands. Good for you.
Squarepusher Nov 8, 2008 at 1:01 pm
+1 votes
Wasnt sure at first, since I wasnt aware of that they made clothes for your size.
jflanden Oct 25, 2008 at 9:08 pm
+1 votes
They will only release box-sale numbers, they will not tell how many people quit WAR that bought the game between 9-18-2008 to two weeks after that release date. There is no way they will reach 1million subscribers, they just may get a total of 1million boxes sold after Christmas though.
Mythic have to do Quarterly financial reports that release subscription numbers like what Funcom did in August?
Also, isn't Funcom due for another quarterly financial report? I'm wondering how many are still playing.
Mythic have to do Quarterly financial reports that release subscription numbers like what Funcom did in August?
Also, isn't Funcom due for another quarterly financial report? I'm wondering how many are still playing.
briyan Oct 25, 2008 at 9:17 pm
+1 votes
There are no requirements to release subscriber numbers, unfortunately. Â Â Funcom gave subscriber numbers in their earnings but they didn't have to, and they said they wouldn't do it again. Â The only reason a company would release subscriber info is if they think those numbers are giving them good press, basically. Â Â
So, we basically can only take what they give us as gifts ... and with Mythic under the EA umbrella, we will get hardly any info at all about WAR. Â We could speculate on AoC based on the Funcom financials because that one game became almost the entire company, but WAR is only a small blip within the vast holdings of EA.
So, we basically can only take what they give us as gifts ... and with Mythic under the EA umbrella, we will get hardly any info at all about WAR. Â We could speculate on AoC based on the Funcom financials because that one game became almost the entire company, but WAR is only a small blip within the vast holdings of EA.
CrispyDeath Oct 26, 2008 at 4:41 pm
+1 votes
I think the charts are interesting but the too games are too distinct.
Some people complain about the animation flaws etc.. but they're being addressed in 1.1 patch. And they're not fatal either way.
But just comparing Funcom's response to issues to Mythic's... is a joke. As others have said and I agree, Mythic is addressing issues more competently then the Grand Daddy Blizzard himself. The difference between Open Beta and today is astounding.
Some people complain about the animation flaws etc.. but they're being addressed in 1.1 patch. And they're not fatal either way.
But just comparing Funcom's response to issues to Mythic's... is a joke. As others have said and I agree, Mythic is addressing issues more competently then the Grand Daddy Blizzard himself. The difference between Open Beta and today is astounding.
sisyphean Oct 26, 2008 at 1:43 am
+1 votes
The other number I've seen from Jacobs, the Mythic honcho, is that their numbers from last day of 30 day trial to first day of paid month (for people who started their 30 days on launch day, I believe) dropped by like 3 %.
Now, this says nothing, of course. Most people and guilds who made it known that they were not going to be resubbing quit playing long before their free month was over. Either way, the more important story is that their player base isn't sufficient in any one zone to actually make the game run the way it's supposed to. Even the most active servers have sporadic large-scale fights taking place, at best. Hopefully for the players stuck in zones with thin population, the upcoming free server transfers help out.
I've resubbed, at least for one month. I'm curious to try to at least get to rank 40 before I make a final decision, although I find myself spending more time logged out of WAR and playing Guildwars recently. The leveling curve is seriously out of whack, and ranks 20-40 need to be going significantly faster in order to get everyone to T4. Perhaps then keep sieges can actually happen.
Now, this says nothing, of course. Most people and guilds who made it known that they were not going to be resubbing quit playing long before their free month was over. Either way, the more important story is that their player base isn't sufficient in any one zone to actually make the game run the way it's supposed to. Even the most active servers have sporadic large-scale fights taking place, at best. Hopefully for the players stuck in zones with thin population, the upcoming free server transfers help out.
I've resubbed, at least for one month. I'm curious to try to at least get to rank 40 before I make a final decision, although I find myself spending more time logged out of WAR and playing Guildwars recently. The leveling curve is seriously out of whack, and ranks 20-40 need to be going significantly faster in order to get everyone to T4. Perhaps then keep sieges can actually happen.
jflanden Oct 26, 2008 at 1:09 pm
+1 votes
The other number I've seen from Jacobs, the Mythic honcho, is that their numbers from last day of 30 day trial to first day of paid month (for people who started their 30 days on launch day, I believe) dropped by like 3 %.
No, that's what they want people skimming what he said to think because besides that, it's such a pointless thing to say. They said that the night before the first billing day that the server population only dropped by 3% which doesn't mean anything besides that the people who quit playing WAR stopped playing before the night before billing day.
No, that's what they want people skimming what he said to think because besides that, it's such a pointless thing to say. They said that the night before the first billing day that the server population only dropped by 3% which doesn't mean anything besides that the people who quit playing WAR stopped playing before the night before billing day.
sisyphean Oct 26, 2008 at 5:20 pm
+1 votes
>>> "No, that's what they want people skimming what he said to think because besides that, it's such a >>> pointless thing to say...."
You realize that's exactly what I said, in the sentence below the one you quoted?
So uh, yeah, I agree with you obviously. Seriously, though, are my posts that long? :P
You realize that's exactly what I said, in the sentence below the one you quoted?
So uh, yeah, I agree with you obviously. Seriously, though, are my posts that long? :P
RedKiwi Oct 26, 2008 at 7:59 am
+0 votes
Lots of people quit because of hardware issues, poor fps, ctds, etc. Mythic needs to get their act together and FAST else their player base will dwindle
wsvg Oct 26, 2008 at 9:05 am
+1 votes
The ball is in Mythic's hands, but it appears they will try to give the community everything they've been asking for and in a reasonable amount of time. Server transfers coming next week, and I imagine a scenarioless server will be the next step.
I cancelled my WoW account and WAR satisifys my need of an MMO. I can play it pretty casually, and gear really isn't much of an issue and I can play with my friends without having to reroll based on balance patches, or having to play perfect class makeups.
I don't blame anyone for taking a break after hitting max level tho. There really wasn't much to do, but wait for more people to hit max level and hope RVR takes off or play the same scenario over and over, or even PVE.
I cancelled my WoW account and WAR satisifys my need of an MMO. I can play it pretty casually, and gear really isn't much of an issue and I can play with my friends without having to reroll based on balance patches, or having to play perfect class makeups.
I don't blame anyone for taking a break after hitting max level tho. There really wasn't much to do, but wait for more people to hit max level and hope RVR takes off or play the same scenario over and over, or even PVE.
blackweb Oct 26, 2008 at 11:01 am
-3 votes
First comparing WAR to AoC is ridiculous. Only WoW fanbois would do such a stupid thing.  I lead a 200+ member order guild on an RP server and we will soon be turning people away.  We are somewhat hampered by a lack of tanks but with the coming of the KotBS that will soon change.
As a long time wow player and former wow guild leader, I can tell you difinitively that
WAR >> WoW
As a long time wow player and former wow guild leader, I can tell you difinitively that
WAR >> WoW
briyan Oct 26, 2008 at 1:13 pm
+1 votes
First comparing WAR to AoC is ridiculous. Only WoW fanbois would do such a stupid thing.
Why is it ridiculous? Â Both WAR and AoC are big-budget fantasy MMOs that were just released this year. Â The target audience should have a lot of overlap, and they are competing in the same arena as WoW.Â
Why is it ridiculous? Â Both WAR and AoC are big-budget fantasy MMOs that were just released this year. Â The target audience should have a lot of overlap, and they are competing in the same arena as WoW.Â
jflanden Oct 26, 2008 at 1:14 pm
+1 votes
I had more fun playing AoC than WAR, in AoC I at least leveled to 42 before selling the account and FFA PvP was much more fun than running the same scenario over and over in WAR.
The only decent amount of fun I had in WAR was leveling from 1-10 with friends. After that, the game became quickly stale for all of us and we quit. Combat being horrible and extremely casual-friendly was a major reason for quiting.
The only decent amount of fun I had in WAR was leveling from 1-10 with friends. After that, the game became quickly stale for all of us and we quit. Combat being horrible and extremely casual-friendly was a major reason for quiting.
CrispyDeath Oct 26, 2008 at 4:45 pm
+1 votes
Jflanden, we all love you for your dedication to trashing Warhammer. But there is no need to inject your opinion (probably fraudulent) in every comment thread that disagrees with you.
sisyphean Oct 26, 2008 at 5:31 pm
+1 votes
Hey something I can actually agree with you on. Rank 1-10 in WAR is the only point where the leveling and questing make sense and really feel right. After that PQs turn into a horrible grind to max out influence, and combat was actually more fun without the excessive AoE and radically scaling burst DPS that make something like Tor Anroc such a cluster ****.
The combat UI and controls really don't bother me, barring a couple lingering bugs with things like Sound effects going off when the spell doesn't, or morale abilities not going off. On the other hand the actual design of the classes did strike me as being, if not casual-friendly, at least less challenging than I had hoped for. As I've mentioned in other posts, I find myself going back to Guildwars because WAR really doesn't feel like it encourages active, smart, and tactical play - it all seems to boil down to magnet+AoE or /assist on the tank and FF down the target with the healing debuff on it.
The combat UI and controls really don't bother me, barring a couple lingering bugs with things like Sound effects going off when the spell doesn't, or morale abilities not going off. On the other hand the actual design of the classes did strike me as being, if not casual-friendly, at least less challenging than I had hoped for. As I've mentioned in other posts, I find myself going back to Guildwars because WAR really doesn't feel like it encourages active, smart, and tactical play - it all seems to boil down to magnet+AoE or /assist on the tank and FF down the target with the healing debuff on it.
bulloch Oct 26, 2008 at 1:23 pm
+1 votes
Because everyone criticizing WAR is just a wow fanboi, right.
CrispyDeath Oct 26, 2008 at 4:46 pm
+1 votes
Actually, he is saying that comparing AoC TO WAR is a wow fanboi... learn to read.
Persist Oct 26, 2008 at 3:36 pm
+1 votes
Yeah, because you led a guild your opinion clearly matters a lot more than the opions of the rest of us who are just seeking a game to enjoy and didn't find it in WAR.
p1n Oct 27, 2008 at 2:23 am
+1 votes
So what you are saying is that Mythic WILL NOT release actual subscriber numbers after the free month has ended unless the numbers are in their favour.
Aren't they counting on us to figure that out?
So the logical conclusion would be of course that if the numbers are not released, subscribers are dropping ?
Aren't they counting on us to figure that out?
So the logical conclusion would be of course that if the numbers are not released, subscribers are dropping ?
briyan Oct 27, 2008 at 12:38 pm
+1 votes
That's a reasonable conclusion, yes. Â They would be eager to announce any new milestones they hit for subscribers, so if you hear nothing, you can bet they are dropping. Â Â Especially when the last data point gave us 750k ... that's not too far from 1 million, which is such a nice round number they could never avoid announcing it.
wsvg Oct 29, 2008 at 11:26 pm
+1 votes
I doubt you'll see Mythic announce 1 million subscribers anytime soon. Especially, when they've even publicly acknowledged they would be losing players to WoTLK. Bottom line is the game will have an audience at least for a while. I just think they've really built up 1.1 (which comes in December) to fix all the problems of the game and if it falls short I think the population then could really begin to thin.
They're doing their first live event which started today for Halloween. It did what it intended to do, got people out into the RVR areas.
They're doing their first live event which started today for Halloween. It did what it intended to do, got people out into the RVR areas.
wsvg Oct 30, 2008 at 7:49 pm
+1 votes
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-- Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning, an MMO from EA's Mythic
Entertainment studio, sold 1.2 million copies in the quarter -- with
over 800 thousand current players
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-- Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning, an MMO from EA's Mythic
Entertainment studio, sold 1.2 million copies in the quarter -- with
over 800 thousand current players
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