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by Syp, Level 43
Last updated at June 8, 2008, 3:47 pm
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I think it'd be very, very easy for this blog to turn into a non-stop rant against WoW and Blizzard, especially in contrast to my hopes and anticipation when it comes to Warhammer Online. And that should never happen -- WoW isn't the focus of WAAAGH!, and WAAAGH! does not hate WoW. We just feel as if its day is passed, and a new dawn approaches.[Cue angelic choruses against a night sky]
But... gah... when I read this, I felt my blood pressure shoot up a bit. Go on, read it. I'll be here.
I really have to ask you guys, just so I don't feel like I'm going crazy here -- is World of Warcraft trying to head off WAR by copying it? A preemptive strike on creativity?
Now of course, WAR doesn't have a monopoly on the whole "achievements" aspect, as City of Heroes, XBox Live and LOTRO has already pioneered the way. But WAR does seem on the verge of revolutionizing the achievement system with the Tome of Knowledge -- something far more vast, detailed, interactive and rewarding than any achievement system we've ever seen. Along with RvR, Public Quests and City Sieges, it's one of the cornerstones of the game.
So -- if this report is accurate and not just a mild screenshot-molesting hoax -- why is WoW just now throwing in an achievement system into the next expansion? It seems odd we haven't heard of this beforehand, but it does look like it's still in primitive development. On the internet, it's easy to see corporate conspiracies in every nook and corner, but sometimes coincidences do add up into real evidence.
Here's what I see so far: (1) Blizzard would be absolutely stupid not to see WAR as the first legitimate contender in the MMO playing field in quite some time. WAR has the backing of a major publisher, it's not being rushed to completion, and it has incredibly good buzz and press. (2) Blizzard announced that an entire zone in the next expansion will be all-PvP, a la Warhammer Online, complete with cooperative quests and siege equipment and vehicles. (3) Blizz might, might be sneaking in an achievement system as well.
Would it be alarmist to speculate that Blizzard is deliberately trying to steal WAR's thunder any way they can? It is possible and probable all of these factors are just coincidences -- after all, the MMO field moves in the same direction like a school of fish -- and the achievement system in WoW is purely bunk. But a nasty little part of my mind envisions Blizzard this fall saying, "Why do you want to try WAR, when we now have everything they have, and all of the content they don't?"
Achievements? Really?
[More screenshots / yet more screenies / article at WoW Insider]

60 comments
Railith Jun 8, 2008 at 4:48 pm
+1 votes
This is an interesting development that kinda proves Mythic's point of keeping a lot of their info under NDA. It's pretty obvious that WoW is taking stuff from WAR. The real question is how much more would it steal if there was no NDA?
Keiser Jun 8, 2008 at 6:02 pm
+1 votes
I'm not worried, the people working on this aspect clearly won't have the passion for it that Carrie has for her ToK. People will see the truth eventually about which is better. It does seem like Blizz is just trying to head off people that haven't heard of WAR yet from leaving once they hear the features it'll have by duplicating them. If people just look at the feature list they'll say "oh I don't need to leave WoW" even though if they were to try WAR they'd see it's vastly different.
Sonny Jim Jun 8, 2008 at 6:40 pm
+1 votes
Whoops, left that in the wrong one Cause I'm a dumbass. Sorry, Syp.
Syp Jun 8, 2008 at 8:40 pm
+1 votes
@Sonny Jim - That's okay, I entered you in the right post!
Ahamix Jun 8, 2008 at 11:18 pm
+1 votes
My blood hasn't boiled over quite as fast as yours Syp but I do agree that related features keep popping up in the WoW circle. The sick and sad thing is, a year from now you will see WoW players claiming siege weapons, achievement systems, and 3-D graphics were pioneered by Blizzard (most of those not an exaggeration!)
spinks Jun 8, 2008 at 11:50 pm
+1 votes
Like you say, WAR is not the first game to have included an achievements feature and Blizzard have always been adept at adapting successful features from other games anyway. (Even if it was possible to challenge the IP of a game feature in court, no one is going to take Blizzard to court, only EA could afford it and their case wouldn't stand up because they didn't invent the feature either.)
I don't think their achievements will be anything like as all-encompassing as the tome of knowledge.
More to the point, WoW is busy splintering its community by encouraging smaller and smaller groups for raids and PvP/arena, and WAR is out there encouraging the whole realm to play together in public quests and huge PvP encounters. It'll be different enough imo.
I don't think their achievements will be anything like as all-encompassing as the tome of knowledge.
More to the point, WoW is busy splintering its community by encouraging smaller and smaller groups for raids and PvP/arena, and WAR is out there encouraging the whole realm to play together in public quests and huge PvP encounters. It'll be different enough imo.
arbitrary Jun 9, 2008 at 12:45 am
+1 votes
Patchworking on features will never be as fully developed as someone who chose to add the feature all along and did it with love and with backing from the entire game development... or so I hope. Plus, I've heard quite a few people say that about WoW's new PvP zone thing - that it's just there for people considering WAR. We'll see how it all pans out, but they would be stupid not to worry a little about WAR (except, like they need the money!)
MMOG Nation Jun 9, 2008 at 1:34 am
+1 votes
[...] (the Waaagh blogger) notes that Lake Wintergrasp, too, may be an attempt to answer WAR’s engaging RvR gameplay element. That leaves the Public Quest element as the major distinction between the two games. If Blizzard [...]
RadarX Jun 9, 2008 at 8:14 am
+1 votes
It's hardly a surprising move and something many people have speculated privately, but to have potential evidence? Very interesting. Nice grab Syp.
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