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by Syp, Level 43
Last updated at September 29, 2008, 8:19 am
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"Any server flagged as Roleplay will follow the same rules as above, but with an additional set of guidelines. These servers are for those players who enjoy truly immersing themselves into the Warhammer loreby acting as their characters’ personalities in-game. Players who opt to participate on a Role Playing server must agree to far more specific rules regarding naming, and it is suggested that players would adhere to WAR or high fantasy conduct and behavior." ~ Realm War Page
I'm surprised nobody's given me any grief yet for rolling on a RP server, given my past tweakage of the ruleset. For all that I tease, RP servers are generally regarded as a more civilized home-away-from-home in MMOs, where the maturity level is ratcheted up a notch or two, and where the community has tools to safeguard their "more immersive" experience. Unless you join a RP guild, however, you're not incredibly likely to find a bevy of role-playing as you're trundling along, but you will find a server full of people more inclined to be tolerant towards it.
When you log on to a RP server in WAR, you have a huuuuuuuge scroll that attempts, in a hilariously flailing fashion, to define the RP ruleset in vague and flowery words. If they put me in charge of that screen, I would've boiled it down to two points: A RP server means that (1) you're not a jerk to people who want to RP, and (2) you create character names that fit within the Warhammer world. The scroll is long and vague because it's hard to properly express what might or might not be an appropriate name; it's kind of like how Justice Potter Stewart tried to define obscenity: "I know it when I see it."
On the surface, it makes sense. They want to create a server where nothing will yank a role-player out of the immersion, and that includes running by a guy named BobbleHeadJoe. For others, it's the appeal of not having to play by the side of WeinerDude or being killed by HoFoSho. I get it. I understand. And I'm cool with it... but in a nervous, twitchy sort of way.
The problem is that we have on one hand an incredibly vague definition of what is and is not name-appropriate in WAR, and on the other hand the game community themselves are given the means to police this ruleset by submitting reports when they consider a name to be "non-RP", which may result in a CSR contacting the player and forcing them to change their name. Vague rule, tattletale. Nothing can go wrong with this picture, right?
Maybe not. Mythic is probably banking on the hopes that the RP community is mature enough not to go overboard with reporting every little thing that doesn't come straight from a Warhammer rulebook, and that their CSR staff has the common sense to sift between names that honestly do need to be changed, and ones that are perfectly fine. On the whole, it probably works more often than not. But does this ruleset actively encourage the players to become snitches? I think there's a distinct possibility that it does.
Read this thread, for example. You can get a good feel for how just a shred of reporting power goes to the heads of some of these folks -- who, again, are most likely in the minority -- and how they see themselves as the Mythic-appointed saviors of the RP ruleset. And you can see how some of the names they report honestly have no place on this type of server.
You never know, when you run by another player, if they're evaluating your name and twitching their finger toward the "report" button. You have no way of knowing if your name lives up to the RP standards of all of the other thousands of players on the server. And if you are unlucky enough to have an okay name that isn't offensive or wildly non-RP and yet you're still contacted to change it, it could sour you on the ruleset entirely.
This is a fun quote from the thread: "It was rather dismaying however when I spoke with a CSR about a Warcraft lore name which they stated was alright even after I showed them article 4 of their own code of conduct naming policy." Player lawyers! I want to RP a dwarf personal injury attorney.
Again, I'm not saying that player reporting is always a bad thing, but just that it has potential for abuse. Someone need instead of greed on a piece of loot you want? Report them for a naming violation! An enemy player kick your butt up and down the scenario? Naming violation!
For those on RP servers, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Is the community more restrained and wise in its reporting practices, or do my paranoid suspicions have merit?

20 comments
Raegn Sep 29, 2008 at 1:14 pm
+1 votes
I think that the majority of people will let non-rp names slide, to be honest. Personally, the only time it really irritates me is when these names are *really* pushing it. For example, OzzyOsboune, Healbot, URDead, etc. You're always going to get a certain portion of people who will let reporting power go to their heads but I'll take that over letting the rulesets slip away any day of the week. In WoW, a lot of RP servers were a joke. I'd hate to see that happen in WAR.
Doxie Sep 29, 2008 at 1:20 pm
+1 votes
I think the RP aspect of my server that I enjoy the most is not having to fight next to people named Gonnagankyaface, but a close second is the people who want to yell at others in scenarios who take the trouble to actually RP it. While I might be mightily offended by, "U R THE MOST WERTHLESS TARDS I EVER PLAYED WITH, "I just giggle when someone says, "Protect our flag or die trying, you craven cowards!"
And while my guild isn't heavily into RP, I always love running into one of the dwarves who will chat me up as we muse over the odd ways of the manlings as their unmovable line of IronBreakers gets the business done.
To bounce back to the main topic though, I'm often surprised and entertained by vent conversations where some person will object to a name, and then a Warhammer Lore aficionado will explain why that name fits perfectly into the lore (for example, adjectives pre-pended to "boy" are perfect greenskin names). I'm glad my guild has a number of people who seem to have spent the first few decades of their lives steeped in Warhammer lore.
And while my guild isn't heavily into RP, I always love running into one of the dwarves who will chat me up as we muse over the odd ways of the manlings as their unmovable line of IronBreakers gets the business done.
To bounce back to the main topic though, I'm often surprised and entertained by vent conversations where some person will object to a name, and then a Warhammer Lore aficionado will explain why that name fits perfectly into the lore (for example, adjectives pre-pended to "boy" are perfect greenskin names). I'm glad my guild has a number of people who seem to have spent the first few decades of their lives steeped in Warhammer lore.
Doxie Sep 29, 2008 at 1:21 pm
+1 votes
Dang. in my above comment I had "pointy-bracket Stone and Steel end-pointy-bracket" in front of "dwarves who will chat me up" but I think it got turned into a previously unknown html tag.
moxie Sep 29, 2008 at 1:57 pm
+1 votes
The only other thing that I would add is that folks should be mindful that not everyone has the advantage of knowing all the Warhammer lore when they start out. My WH has a non-German name. My dwarf has a non-dwarven name. My elf will have a... non-elven name. I have come across RPers in the past that would actually report people for having non-lore-correct (but otherwise fine) names. Names are a very personal thing and most people get very attached to them. Somebody mentioned the name Zelda getting reported... well Zelda is a perfectly legit name, even if it does have video game connotations.
Late Monday Musings Sep 29, 2008 at 6:46 pm
+1 votes
[...] Syp has a good post on RP servers and player vigilantes. I’m playing on a RP server myself and I should tell you [...]
raidenn Sep 29, 2008 at 8:59 pm
+1 votes
So its that strict huh? I always wondered how do the extra set of rules apply..
Cedia Sep 29, 2008 at 11:26 pm
+1 votes
Obviously you never played DAoC, which had this policy on their RP servers from the beginning. Only the worst offenders were ever changed.
Spongly Sep 30, 2008 at 3:13 am
+1 votes
I play on an RP server and I am actually a roleplayer (By the gods!) but I haven't yet reported a name. Mostly I use names like "Evilbarbie" (dark elf) on my own side as a reason to ignore them and on the Order side as a big ole target over their heads. Yes I know that 'IC' I wouldn't know that dwaffer is called BigNuts but this player is still going to crush said nuts under her well heeled boot.
Alot of my roleplaying friends use a similar train of thought so therefore if you choose an obviously stupid name on an RP server its a *really* good way to make yourself a target for the other side!
Alot of my roleplaying friends use a similar train of thought so therefore if you choose an obviously stupid name on an RP server its a *really* good way to make yourself a target for the other side!
Baztir Sep 30, 2008 at 6:49 pm
+1 votes
Some may consider me one of the 'snitches'. When I've got the free time [IE, no RP to be had, and I'm too darned lazy to level], I'll hang out on low-leveled areas. Now, I don't go around stealing kills, or anything like that. I simply sit back, help with quests [If it's needed], and more importantly, watch for names. 'Ladygrimsword'... Let it pass. 'Iwillkilu'. Report. 'Rainstorm' Pass. 'Loludie' Report. Some may call this 'Looking for trouble' or 'Snitching'. All sorts of things like that. But, I figure, someone's going to report them, eventually. Might as well get them as soon as they hit 'Play' on the server. Before reporting, I'll speak to them, and inform them about the violation. And, on more than one occasion, I have been wrong. But, that's why I ask them first. "Did you read the rules referring to names on an RP server?" "Yes, and my name IS RP, because..." is all it takes, sometimes. Although, I'd like to see 'Iwillkilu' try to explain that one...
Nakust Oct 31, 2008 at 2:39 am
+1 votes
As sad as it is there are people out there that feel the need to take the rules of a RP realm and just completely throw them over their shoulder. "Who care's if I get caught, right?". Well being on a RP realm and not a big RP'er (Friends like it) I'm very tolerent of RPing. When it comes to people reporting people because they ask them where they got an item, that's too far, you're pathetic, read a book if you want complete immersion (as though asking for assistance isn't RP...). Now as for names go. I've reported a few (and I'm not even really into RP mind you) But I so don't want to see a Vanhellsing witch hunter or a Grimmdeath Mcdeath...yes, his surname is Mcdeath. However a guildy was contacted after some reports and was told "That as long as they don't have a name of a character in the realm of WAR or it's not blatantly profane then it's ok". Talk about those vague rules huh?
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"Any server flagged as Roleplay will follow the same rules as above, but with an additional set of guidelines. These servers are for those players who enjoy truly immersing themselves into the Warhammer loreby acting as their characters’ personalities in-game. Players who opt to participate on a Role Playing server must agree to far more specific rules regarding naming, and it is suggested that players would adhere to WAR or high fantasy conduct and behavior."

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