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by Syp, Level 43
Last updated at September 18, 2008, 10:35 pm
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(anyone remember that famous tagline to the very blah Tommy Lee Jones film Volcano? just me? okay.)It has to be something big to tear me away from prime time evening scenario RvR play, but in the midst of launch fever (for more cowbell), bad has clashed with good, and only Batman can sort them out.
Disclaimer: for the most part, I think launch has gone reasonably well, particularly considering the numbers and factors involved. I've had little problems with queues, had all my codes entered and validated, and enjoyed 85% of the time I wanted to play (the other 15% is due to either server downtime or my internet cutting out last night). Mythic gets praise where it's due, but there's some issues that have popped up that can't be overlooked:
1. EA Screws Up Shipping Orders.
Considering that, y'know, EA is the publisher and all, you think that buying from their online store would've offered you the most secure, unfettered access to your purchase possible. But I guess not. Customers who ordered digital downloads aren't getting the keys necessary, and some folks aren't getting their products for days or even weeks from now. One EA Store customer posted this form letter they received:
Thank you for purchasing Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning Collector's Edition through the EA Store. Due to issues with our inventory management system, you received an email alert about a possible delay in shipping the Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning Collector's Edition. We have since resolved the issue and orders are now being processed for shipment to the majority of our preorder customers. A small percentage of our customers have been affected by the delay. If you fall within that group, you will receive a second notice to explain how we intend to compensate you and give you access to the game until your Collector's Edition arrives. We apologize for the inconvenience.
2. Best Buy Puts Pre-Ordered CE Boxes On Store Shelves.
I've read this story and it was also verified by a friend of mine, who told me they went to Best Buy to pick up their pre-order, only to discover that the store had put them on the shelves instead of holding them. How many copies did the store have? 6. Happily, they got their pre-orders, but they had a long talk with the manager and found out that the store hadn't received the special instructions to hold pre-orders before the 18th.
3. Gamestop Sells Warhammer Early.
Most game stores get their shipments in on Tuesday, so I suppose you can't blame Gamestop too much for jumping the gun and selling WAR a day early. I got my copy on Wednesday, so no complaints from me. But this did put immediate pressure on Mythic to allow customers to enter in their codes -- which Mythic had firmly stated was only to be after 12:01 AM on Sept 18. Apparently they relented a bit, because I was able to enter my code in on the evening of the 17th.
4. Mythic Announces That Your Retail Code Must Be Entered In By 7:00 AM Friday the 19th, or Your Access To WAR Will Be Put On Hold.
You can read the Herald announcement here. Two things pop out at me from this announcement: one, that it will deny access to thousands of pre-orders or beta testers who haven't yet entered their codes a mere day after launch, and two, that they're going ahead with this even though many EA Store customers haven't received their codes yet. Mythic tries to downplay this with a humorous slant:
Think of it as a good time to stand up, have a stretch, and go out to greet that bright, giant, hot thing in the sky. Don’t forget your shades!
This does seem to go against what Mythic previously posted in their Pre-Order FAQ on 3/26/08:
While we encourage you to get your WAR product key as soon as possible, we will provide a reasonable grace period for players to get a hold of their copies and have uninterrupted service following the Live Game Head Start.
Puzzlement, anger and sputtering has washed over forums and community fansites -- mostly because Mythic previously stated that there would be a substantial grace period (Update: a link to a screenshot with a Sept 22nd grace date put forth by Mythic) to enter the codes, and now they've backed down from that. What gives?
Mark Jacobs posted a lengthy response to this and some of the other issues, which you can read here, but here are the salient points:
- Mythic claims retailers gave out "thousands" of CE/SE pre-order codes to people who did not pay for them or actually pre-order anything (nevermind pick up a box copy). Mythic doesn't want "thousands and thousands" of people playing for free for weeks.
- He claims that the number of people affected by the shortened grace period (of one day) is small.
- They're not doing this to be greedy or gain more money.
I have to say, with all respect, that Mythic is wrong in this situation, and is blindly deluding themselves that everyone but a "small" percentage of customers will have received their ordered copies by Friday at 7:00 AM to guarantee uninterrupted service. This is a game rollout on a massive scale, and like it or not, the world's not perfect. The post office delays packages or loses them, customers are sometimes unavailable to get to their mail, and stores do drop the ball. Not to mention those who can't get their boxes due to Hurricane Ike. We'll see how it goes tomorrow, but unless that "small" percentage is infinitesimal, Mythic's going to be hearing from some very grumpy customers.
This all comes off that Mythic is far more concerned about non-customers playing the game for free -- like a trial version! -- than paying customers getting in on time. It really does. Mythic's footed the bill for server time of non-paying customers for months and months now -- wouldn't the risk of a non-playing customer using the game for a week be worth it to show goodwill to real customers who can't get in and need the peace of mind that a grace period offers? One day isn't a grace period, it's a hard deadline. And it seems to go against just how well Mythic's been handling customer purchase situations in the past.
One of my guildies has the theory that this is a preemptive move on Mythic's part to deny the influx of gold sellers, who are actually spamming chat and whisper channels on day one (I've heard of two reports so far).
Oh, and this apparently only applies to North America -- Europe will go forward as normal.
Update: Robert Mull posts on the delay -- apparently, Amazon is working "as fast as they can" to get the orders out.
5. Lengthy Server Downtime On Launch Day Plus One.
Perhaps not as great of an issue as these others, but it is eyebrow-raising that Mythic's taking all the servers offline for a good chunk of Friday -- you know, the day after launch, when hundreds of thousands of players will continue to be trying to access the game for the first time.
As I said before, I think this was a really good launch day for WAR -- but rocky and discomforting to several players as well. Let's hope Mythic can sort some of these issues out and make for a smooth ride next week.

43 comments
Arenwino Sep 18, 2008 at 10:45 pm
+1 votes
Mythic has just destroyed this great launch day.
"They’re not doing this to be greedy or gain more money."
It's impossible to believe this one second. So what are they doing it for? The good of the game? The good of the players? I have a lot of respect for Mark Jacobs, but his post on the vn boards is horrible and makes things worst.
Sorry Mythic, but WAR launch day will always be remembered for this epic epic fail.
"They’re not doing this to be greedy or gain more money."
It's impossible to believe this one second. So what are they doing it for? The good of the game? The good of the players? I have a lot of respect for Mark Jacobs, but his post on the vn boards is horrible and makes things worst.
Sorry Mythic, but WAR launch day will always be remembered for this epic epic fail.
Green Armadillo Sep 18, 2008 at 11:20 pm
+1 votes
- Bestbuy generally does not respect in-store CE pre-orders, no matter what an individual employee may tell you. This is good news if you didn't pre-order in time, but bad news in any other situation.
- The flipside to the grace period debate (IIRC, the Alliance said that GOA will provide an entire week, go figure) is that people smart enough to sit on their unopened retail box until the end of the grace period get an extra week over people who did the right thing and entered their codes on launch day. Now personally, I don't see why ALL MMORPG's shouldn't tack on an extra day to the not-quite-free "free" month, since there will ALWAYS be downtime on day 1, but once you're talking about a free week for all your customers at over $3/head, that starts to be a fair chunk of change.
A cynic might also argue that Mythic is afraid that people will decide to return their unopened boxes at the end of the first week, given the opportunity to try the game for the intervening week. One hopes Mythic has more faith in their product than that, but I suppose every sale counts.
- The flipside to the grace period debate (IIRC, the Alliance said that GOA will provide an entire week, go figure) is that people smart enough to sit on their unopened retail box until the end of the grace period get an extra week over people who did the right thing and entered their codes on launch day. Now personally, I don't see why ALL MMORPG's shouldn't tack on an extra day to the not-quite-free "free" month, since there will ALWAYS be downtime on day 1, but once you're talking about a free week for all your customers at over $3/head, that starts to be a fair chunk of change.
A cynic might also argue that Mythic is afraid that people will decide to return their unopened boxes at the end of the first week, given the opportunity to try the game for the intervening week. One hopes Mythic has more faith in their product than that, but I suppose every sale counts.
Jay Sep 18, 2008 at 11:30 pm
+1 votes
yeah...super
so I just checked the tracking and it says delivered, signed by DONAHUE....
I don't know who Donahue is, so I don't have the box I don't know who has the box.
Perfect. UPS let someone else sign for it and I may be completely screwed.
so I just checked the tracking and it says delivered, signed by DONAHUE....
I don't know who Donahue is, so I don't have the box I don't know who has the box.
Perfect. UPS let someone else sign for it and I may be completely screwed.
Pinwiz Sep 19, 2008 at 12:15 am
+1 votes
And then there's people like me who will be away from their PCs until Sunday and will apply their keys then to get a full month's free play instead of losing three days because of a wedding.
moxie Sep 19, 2008 at 12:19 am
+1 votes
Well considering that when you pre-ordered from Best Buy they give you a "Collector's Edition Pre-Order" box with all the codes in it, they had better darn well be honoring the CE pre-orders. If the hubby and I hadn't gotten our CEs tonight, pissed would've been an understatement.
We won't be pre-ordering from them again anyway after this. Their employees and manager were completely clueless. We'll stick with real game stores for Collectors Editions from this point forward.
We won't be pre-ordering from them again anyway after this. Their employees and manager were completely clueless. We'll stick with real game stores for Collectors Editions from this point forward.
Gerbil Sep 19, 2008 at 12:32 am
+1 votes
A number of Australian copies of the game install with a broken version of the patcher and no war.exe. It's possible to download a working patcher which fixes it, but only if you know where to look for it.
http://files.filefront.com/warpatchexe/;11292885;/fileinfo.html
http://files.filefront.com/warpatchexe/;11292885;/fileinfo.html
ScytheNoire Sep 19, 2008 at 12:49 am
+1 votes
Glad to see you covering this Syp. Most of the other fan sites don't seem to be touching this topic.
Everything you say is true. Not only has Mythic screwed up, but all their retail parnters have screwed up and most of all, EA has screwed up.
This entire launch, while the game is fun if you can get past the queue to play, outside of the game, it's been a disaster.
Pre-orders need to be done away with. They don't work. Pre-order codes don't work. And if they are going to do Collector's Editions, they need to cut out all the retail partners who mess up (Best Buy, Amazon, EB Games, Game Stop) and only allow CE ordering directly from the distributor and limit it one per credit card number.
Then EA wouldn't of been short, because they wouldn't have shipped copies any where else but to customers. No one would have ordered six copies so they can eBay them, while others go without. And store employees from corrupt companies like GameStop couldn't go screwing over customers any more.
Cut all this crap out. Cut out the pre-order codes. Cut out the CE to other retailers other than main distributor. If all CE pre-orders were done through EA, and they had a better store in place and better customer service, then maybe all of this mess could have been avoided.
What a huge clusterf**k this launch has been. Same old EA.
Everything you say is true. Not only has Mythic screwed up, but all their retail parnters have screwed up and most of all, EA has screwed up.
This entire launch, while the game is fun if you can get past the queue to play, outside of the game, it's been a disaster.
Pre-orders need to be done away with. They don't work. Pre-order codes don't work. And if they are going to do Collector's Editions, they need to cut out all the retail partners who mess up (Best Buy, Amazon, EB Games, Game Stop) and only allow CE ordering directly from the distributor and limit it one per credit card number.
Then EA wouldn't of been short, because they wouldn't have shipped copies any where else but to customers. No one would have ordered six copies so they can eBay them, while others go without. And store employees from corrupt companies like GameStop couldn't go screwing over customers any more.
Cut all this crap out. Cut out the pre-order codes. Cut out the CE to other retailers other than main distributor. If all CE pre-orders were done through EA, and they had a better store in place and better customer service, then maybe all of this mess could have been avoided.
What a huge clusterf**k this launch has been. Same old EA.
Harold Sep 19, 2008 at 12:54 am
+1 votes
Is there a free trial of WAR available? If not, is that something that won't likely occur for another year or so? I've no idea what's typical for MMORPGs; I've only just recently begun playing WoW and DDO and Powder Project due to the free trials (and PP is free).
Maybe with all the screwups they can offer some free weeks to those who've ordered the game early...
Maybe with all the screwups they can offer some free weeks to those who've ordered the game early...
Dan McDermott Sep 19, 2008 at 1:00 am
+1 votes
I have to totally agree with this post, but I actually would have been a little harsher. EA and Mythic have made some huge launch mistakes the last few weeks, and it keeps getting uglier. I love the game, but they are hurting their chance of bringing in new players with all these blunders, and bad word of mouth that is spreading like wildfire about their botched launch.
Btw, the way the Best Buy situation worked was there was a news feed letting all stores know that the Collectors Edition needs to be held back, and customer must provide the correct SKU on their receipt to be able to purchase the CE. This was posted on the 17th. It was already too late, but also as well another problem was the Employee News system was down for maintenance for the last few days, so this information could not get to employees anyway until today.
Whether Best Buy made the mistake of not providing this news earlier to the Media team, or Mythic was late letting the company know. I would blame both in this situation.
Btw, the way the Best Buy situation worked was there was a news feed letting all stores know that the Collectors Edition needs to be held back, and customer must provide the correct SKU on their receipt to be able to purchase the CE. This was posted on the 17th. It was already too late, but also as well another problem was the Employee News system was down for maintenance for the last few days, so this information could not get to employees anyway until today.
Whether Best Buy made the mistake of not providing this news earlier to the Media team, or Mythic was late letting the company know. I would blame both in this situation.
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